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This whole post has this ONE rule in mind that has been in place for a very long time "all pictures must be given complete and proper credit: Artist/Studio and URL/Email. Credit is not the site where you found the picture, but the site of who produced it. Please see Blacklist for improper credit." its not a new rule but if its new to you I suggest you go read the site rules http://www.advancedanime.com/policies.php

Lately I've noticed people are starting to take to one name credits- meaning they just give one name for the artist, not a full first and last name but just their first name alias and no URL is normally provided in these cases. This is disrespectful to the artist and their work for several reasons:

1) With a simple name that many other people can have on the web and NO URL or last name to back it up someone would normally not be able to find that persons website using Google unless they are willing to go through 50 or more links and a ton of other trouble. This isn't fair to the artist: if you feel the need to upload them here then they deserve to have full and proper credit name AND URL. Its also not fair to the viewer having to search really hard for something that should by common courtesy be provided.

2) It's just disrespectful to not give a full and proper name or URL for someone that worked very hard to create something. We all know that some artists only go by one name but if this is the case a URL or email should at least be provided. Also it's just unethical to not give full and proper credit when you know it.

I know that in some cases you only have that one name to work with because the site as closed down or if the site is 18+(Still have to be able to provide it for the admins though) and you can't post the link but I also know in many many of these cases the uploader just doesn't want to give away some good pictures to upload later or is just lazy. This kind of thing has to stop and soon. The reason this site is here is to enjoy anime and celebrate wonderful artists; not to keep people from finding them.

So if for some reason you can not post the link to the artist please do it in the fallowing fashion or something similar ARTIST - (Web site down) or ARTIST - (website 18+) so we know why you have not posted the link.

If you see a picture that you think comes from dA, Pixiv or any other site like that please report it. Even if you just expect it but aren't sure the admins can look in to it. There is a report button at the bottom right of each page. Type out the problem you have with whatever is on that page and send it to the admins. Be polite about it though.

If you aren't sure about the credit for an artist or if an artist that you really like can be uploaded to the site send a PM to a sub admin. Also don't forget about the tags and Wikis that are available to you they can help you find proper credits.

Please remember to report problems, like if someone doesn't use "Where is this from?" but "IDK" instead report them in many cases people do NOT change it just because you tell them to. Sending a report to the admin will ensure that it is taken care of in the proper manner.

Respect the wonderful artists who are out there and give them the credit they deserve.

Rules: http://www.advancedanime.com/policies.php
Newbie Guide: http://www.advancedanime.com/help_newbie_guide.php
Blacklist: http://www.advancedanime.com/help_blacklist.php

If you have any questions please do ask, I know Jent has said she will be watching this topic and I'm pretty sure the others will to.

Thanks to Jent for OKing this and reading over it.
Thanks to Turnoffthelight for reading over it and checking my spelling.
Posted: Oct 1st, 2009 05:40:00 pm
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I want to add here, that if you upload something on this site, be prepared to be able to come up with a site even if the site is 18+. Sub-admins will be checking.
Posted: Oct 1st, 2009 06:46:12 pm
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Hmm... =/ I always try to provide as much information as I can on the artist. I'll try harder to add the websites as well. Thank you, redhope.
Posted: Oct 2nd, 2009 04:06:07 am
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not a full first and last name but just their first name alias

Sometimes though, a picture will only have the alias printed in the bottom corner. I get a lot of my images via photobucket and email, so sometimes the only thing I have to go by is the alias.
Posted: Oct 2nd, 2009 05:00:41 am
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I've always try, but the site gets lost b/c I don't really think of uploading it. So I'm entirely guilty. But lots of artist does have the master/credit as something like "Kyuuyo" and at the bottom they even say "All credits of Kyuuyo" I've been trying to get sites up along with them.
Posted: Oct 2nd, 2009 08:38:02 am
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But if you don't have a website to link back the artist, how can you be sure that it's their work? We've all been looking at anime images long enough to know that they can be VERY edited, or even stolen and claimed to be someone else's.

If you don't know where you're really getting it from, or have an incomplete credit, you should be putting, "Where is this from?".

If you have an image uploaded and you don't know the website, try PMing the admins.
Posted: Oct 2nd, 2009 08:44:52 am
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Sometimes I can't find a site for an artist and since this topic has been brought up I figured I could make a list of those artist's. (Redhope if you disagree just let me know).

Website needed for:
Naomi Nodoka
R 2000
Mappirakku
Hirobakar
Aria
Shigureteki
Futoshi Fujikawa
Chitose Maki
Cris_2001
BOOST FIRE
Yahooo
Asuka
Odu Sora
Tokitsukaze Otoha
Izuru Nekou
Miyuki Yamaguchi
Kaiji Nekotsuki
Anry
Posted: Oct 2nd, 2009 10:54:42 am
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I understand that sometimes you can't find jack on an artist or only have whats printed on the bottom. This is why I said in my post I said
//If you aren't sure about the credit for an artist or if an artist that you really like can be uploaded to the site send a PM to a sub admin. Also don't forget about the tags and Wikis that are available to you they can help you find proper credits.//

Its happening way way to much. :/ And I think everyone has done it once or twice I know I have to go through some of my pictures and find the URL's.

====== I'll edit in a bit I have to go to work in about an hour so I don't have a whole lot of time to do it now.

Naomi Nodoka - The URL is at the bottom of the picture I'll have to work on figuring out the the three letters before the last two.
R 2000
Agahari
Shiroshu
Onineko
Onsokuzekuu
Takashi Takeuchi I'm pretty sure you have the names mixed around because I found it - Its Type Moons artist by name not studio. http://www.remus.dti.ne.jp/~takeucto/
Shigure
Hanui
Kanato
Sugiyama Waka - http://oniqu.jp/ and I think its spelled Miyama_waka but I'm not totally sure.
Murakami Suigun - http://ww5.tiki.ne.jp/~msuigun/
Mouri
Miya
Mappirakku
Hikaru Mizusawa - Normally known as DOWN+DOWN on this site http://down.2-d.jp/ URL.
Posted: Oct 2nd, 2009 12:08:03 pm
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^Thanks, I'll go back and edit those in.
Posted: Oct 2nd, 2009 12:54:09 pm
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Is that rule apply for ALL the artist or we can make except like Tony Taka, Aoi Nanase, etc...
And for the manga mangaka don't always have website...
Posted: Oct 2nd, 2009 05:33:45 pm
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^If the artist has a site then post it. I've added many Wiki's today that contain the artist's website.
Posted: Oct 2nd, 2009 05:42:06 pm
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Quote:
But if you don't have a website to link back the artist, how can you be sure that it's their work?


It's like how you remember faces but not names and the other way around. I certainly can't recognize artist's sites/arts by their web address in the fact that it's not after their own names/credits. But I do remember by having a certain picture attached to a name. I would never sink so low as to give false credits to a worthy artist, I respect artists too much. I know it's their works b/c of their style and the fact that it's on a official site. I'll admit I could get the sites, but it's a habit I find hard to break in forgetting so yes it's a fault in my corner.
Posted: Oct 2nd, 2009 05:59:58 pm
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//Is that rule apply for ALL the artist or we can make except like Tony Taka, Aoi Nanase, etc...
And for the manga mangaka don't always have website...// No they don't always have a website but most of the time they do and if you are scanning manga then you may want to read the back of the book most of them say do not redistribute under what ever copyright they are using.

As for Tony Taka and Aoi Nanase why not give them the URL? I mean its easy to find and wouldn't be to much trouble but thats personal opinion, I'd wait for an admin to answer it.

//It's like how you remember faces but not names and the other way around. I certainly can't recognize artist's sites/arts by their web address in the fact that it's not after their own names/credits. But I do remember by having a certain picture attached to a name. I would never sink so low as to give false credits to a worthy artist, I respect artists too much. I know it's their works b/c of their style and the fact that it's on a official site. I'll admit I could get the sites, but it's a habit I find hard to break in forgetting so yes it's a fault in my corner. //

This isn't just about making up credits though this is about crediting an artists in full and properly. Other wise... as you said its your fault don't punish the artist by not giving the full and proper credit.

Its not just about if the name is right or wrong its about giving the artist credit and it easy to find an artist for gallery goers. I'm sorry to tell you this but I have no sympathy for you and feel you should go through your uploads and find the URL's for as many as you can. But thats not for me to make you do or correct its for the admins to take care of.
Posted: Oct 2nd, 2009 07:43:36 pm
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I always think that Veteran And Sub Admins know everything about Artists Site?

Shigure----Site 18+ http://shigure3.web.fc2.com/index.html
Pixiv Artist http://www.pixiv.net/index.php?id=10117

Hanui-----Pixiv Artis http://www.pixiv.net/index.php?id=700719

Miya------http://tsumazukanaimimimimimi.web.fc2.com/

Eita Mizuno----http://www.no-510.net/ex_2.html

EDIT:

Onineko: http://t-walker.jp/sr/illust/ils_info.cgi?ilsid=01061
http://oni26.tudura.com/

Shiroshu also A pixiv artist, but I forget the ID, sorry...
Posted: Oct 2nd, 2009 10:22:24 pm
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///I always think that Veteran And Sub Admins know everything about Artists Site?///

Sorry but can you clarify what you mean? Cause.. if I read that right you think we should know >_> all the artists in the world.
Posted: Oct 2nd, 2009 10:35:22 pm
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...
I only think that since veteran/ sub admins already been in AA for a long time, their experience would be much better compared to newbie like me, back again It just basic thought of me that Upper is greater than newbie, sorry If I'm too honest, But I surely will help you if you Ask
Posted: Oct 2nd, 2009 10:40:19 pm
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I only think that since veteran/ sub admins already been in AA for a long time

Considering new artists are coming out all the time and older ones are being recognized more, I think it's a little bit ignorant to assume we should know everything. I can recognize a lot of art styles but that's only because they were posted so many times on AA and reported enough that you start to pick up on it.

There's no way anyone could know every artist out there. If it's a picture that's been up a lot sure I'll probably know it but otherwise there's no reason for anyone to think I would. I'm sure any pictures that are posted that aren't suppose to be will eventually be learned but it has to start somewhere. -_-

Everyone is held to the same responsibility. As redhope pointed out you can look them up. If you're not sure then try asking someone to help you look.
Posted: Oct 2nd, 2009 10:44:31 pm
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I'm terrible sorry with my words earlier, I don't mean to mock or what, it just I think My expectation is too much...

I always think Gap between newbie like me and Veteran/sub-admins Is so far, I just think they're far above me and don't want to hear newbie opinion like me, back again, maybe I carried away with my situation in real life,
Well said that, I'll be any help if you ask
Posted: Oct 2nd, 2009 10:51:39 pm
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its your fault don't punish the artist by not giving the full and proper credit.


I have not done anything against their wishes, they say "All credits reserved to _______" I write "Credits: _______" If these artist have "Original and fanarts are not to be used w/o permission" I don't upload them. If they don't want to be linked I don't link them. I've always gone out of my way to read their "about me" and abide by their rules, and even with permission I still message them with "I really love your art, and I simply would love to show the world your work." It's corny but I do that, and I've actually gotten replies such as "Thank you so much that my art has reached overseas." I don't think they've found it disrespectful or punishing.
Posted: Oct 3rd, 2009 08:48:44 am
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I have edited my list, made Wiki's for those given, deleted Pixiv artists. Thanks for the help in finding those sites!
Posted: Oct 3rd, 2009 11:54:22 am
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